Modern Talking

[Valerio]

Years ago while I was watching VIVA (Germany) I saw the last part of a video by Modern Talking and I liked it even if I couldn't remember anything of that song and video. The song was Ready for the victory and some days ago I remembered it and I downloaded it. I like it too much, it's catchy even if the lyrics...ehm...nothing so good but very catchy. I didn't know anything about this group and so I downloaded some other songs and I found out that some songs were very popular here and I remember I used to listen to them when I was younger.

Here there are 2 links to 2 videos:

You're my heart, you're my soul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNCk9rY1zN0

Ready for the victory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqrL5xilioc

Does anyone like them, is a fan or such? :-)

[André]

LOL... wait til Ileana stumbles over this thread. Modern Talking are very popular in Germany, they had many many hits with "You're My Heart, You're My Soul" being their biggest.

[Mrs.Half-Swedish]

André .... sorry but isn't it better to write in the past .... as I don't think they are very popular anymore lol they had a revival back in 1998 with their hits from the 80's with new mixes and stuff and 2-3 new songs, but I would not say that they are still very popular.... or maybe it's the ABBA effect ... many people like them and none would admit it? haha ... well I don't like Dieter Bohlen at all ... being popular by being mean to other people is not something I support

[André]

Jessica: maybe they aren't that popular in Germany anymore, but they sold 130 Mio records worldwide. It's not like they were some one-hit-wonder-dance-band :P

[Mrs.Half-Swedish]

ok ... that's a point ... which I accept, but still there are one of those bands which you love or hate lol like many other German artists as well

never called them a one hit wonder, but being popular 2 times with the same music is not really what I think makes a good band. but maybe it's just me.

quality is a lot more worth than quantity ... and besides 50 % of their songs are with the same melody while the rest 50% are stolen from other artists :nerd:

[André]

LOL, relax... I can't stand Modern Talking myself! I was just pointing out they are (were) very successful.

[Valerio]

hey hey guys, be quiet :-D

From your posts I took many informations about them. You know, biographies on websites are never that objective: everyone seem to be the most loved, successful and popular group/singer of the world. LOL

As I said I don't know very much about them but I feel to agree with Andrè when he says that they are/were very successfull. I mean, quality for me too is a very important thing but there's to say that if you don't sell you don't get success, even if the quality is huge...

Well, 2 people don't like them, anyone do? :-P

Andrè, I'll wait for Ileana ;-)

[Najsan]

When I was a kid me and my friend used to play that we were the guys in Modern Talking... I was the dark one and emma was forced to be the light one.. cause he was the ugly one... hehe... Weird, I know.

Their music is catchy but it is nothhing i listen to.

[Mrs.Half-Swedish]

When I was a kid me and my friend used to play that we were the guys in Modern Talking... I was the dark one and emma was forced to be the light one.. cause he was the ugly one... hehe... Weird, I know.

Their music is catchy but it is nothhing i listen to.

wow ... :-O lol I'm speachless :-O

[Valerio]

When I was a kid me and my friend used to play that we were the guys in Modern Talking... I was the dark one and emma was forced to be the light one.. cause he was the ugly one... hehe... Weird, I know.

Their music is catchy but it is nothhing i listen to.

:rotfl: Ha ha ha! too funny! LOL
I think it's quite common to play to be some importan person. I used to play with friends that I was a singer of a group but I can't remember which one.... :-/ I have to ask to my parents if they remember it. lol

[acer4ever]

I couldn't finish watching the videos! They seem quite corny...?

[Najsan]

We were like.. 8 or something... Hahaha...

[Mrs.Half-Swedish]

ok I think you are excused ;-)

[Ileana]

So I'm here, Valerio! :-D Congratulations for your music taste, lol!
I have all Modern Talking albums, so if you want other songs, just tell me! :-D I even have a concert on tape.

Unfortunately I don't have time today to start a convo about their music, but the point is it's one of my biggest favourites, together with AOB and Blue System, this is a band that the blond guy from Modern Talking started by himself after split-up. I could say I even like Blue System more than Modern Talking, as it's more "modern" and "dance" and more "AOB-ish" style.

I have liked Modern Talking since 1990, I didn't even know who's singing, but it was the most special music I was hearing, these sounds were unique and were Heaven to me. I know people hate them, especially in Germany, but this doesn't erase the fact that they are or were very successful in the whole Europe. For me this "hatred" from the Germans is nothing different from the hatred that Swedes have for AOB: people are just envious. In Romania Modern Talking is still played every day on the radios and in Russia Dieter Bohlen is a "God". So to people who don't like their music or think it's commercial, I could only point out the same reasons for which other people say the same about AOB. The main thing is that Modern Talking and AOB is "100% clean music", and nowadays' tendency is that people try to appear cool and different from normal by proclaiming themselves fans of dirtiness, which they try to find in music, too.

For me Modern Talking's music brings out everything I cherish: love, magic, light, happiness, optimism, it's Heaven. Yes, the lyrics are stupid in a way, but the sounds make up for everything, it's the coolest music. And it really saved me from falling so many time, it's my best medicine. I don't care how Dieter Bohlen is in reality, although I don't see him as a monster at all, but other people do. What is important is what his music did for me, and for all the other people who like it. The same as you all are grateful to AOB and Jonas for the many happy moments.

So I'm not ashamed to say that I love Modern Talking. And it's appropriate to quote here what André wrote about AOB years ago on his site, he found the best words and it's what I think, too, about AOB and about Modern Talking:

"I know people think they're uncool, but :
1) they aren't and
2) I don't care anyway" :-P

BTW, André! Did you mean you can't stand Thomas and Dieter or the music? Cause I really doubt that you listened to it properly so that you could say this...

[Valerio]

Thank you so much Ileana for your long post! :hug:
There are many interesting things in it and I'll try to comment each part of it.

Cool to know you're such a big fan of them! I downloaded some songs and I like them a lot especially Ready for the Victory both because it's modern and because it's catchy/dance. So, if you can suggest me some songs like Ready for the Victory I would be very happy :-) Anyway I'm downloading some songs by Blue System; I'll let you know! ;-)

A few questions:
Why do people hate them in Germany? How are they considered? How is Dieter Bohlen in the reality?

From what I read in this topic I realised that AOB and Modern Talking are very similar (as also Ileana said). I mean: people hate them, they are considered too commercial, even if they sold very much copies their songs are considered stupid, sometimes AoB showed to be not very gratefull to the fans and maybe Modern talking did the same, etc...
I can understand what Ileana feel for M.T. as it's what I (and most of us) feel for AoB. The most consider Ace of Base dead, a group who sang stupid songs, with the same rythm, but I can't see anything of this in AoB. So I can realise why Modern Talking are hated and loved :-)

[Ileana]

Valerio, thanks for your support, lol!

Dieter Bohlen is very often in the media because of what he says, he has a way of saying directly what he thinks even if it's not pleasant for other people. But it's brave to do this and he is mostly right. Otherwise he is just an ambitious man who got where he wanted by talent, work and intelligence. As you said, it's not enough to make music, you also have to sell it. He has power now and you know people are envied for this. Otherwise he doesn't have any negative sides like so many loved artists: he didn't take drugs, he is not an alcoholic, he wasn't in prison, etc. So I don't know, he is normal. He sometimes said insulting things for other people but he admitted in a recent interview it was wrong. So I guess he is just open and has a big mouth, but otherwise I have nothing but admiration for him, he is a winner and thinks like one. That's exactly what other people maybe hate about him.

Young people in Germany thins that Modern Talking music is similar to the german "Schlagers" or popular music, so of course it's uncool to love such music, and especially the older songs that their parents maybe used to love. Besides, the singers are old, so you can imagine teenagers prefer worshipping young excentric bands. Otherwise it's the well-known attitude against commercial music. Also it's that tendency to prefer music from other countries and I can understand that. They seem to be interested in English, American or Asiatic stuff, not only in music, everything else seems cooler. But in a way it's a surface thing and they are proud when foreigners like German music, even Modern Talking :-)

So Ready for the Victory is one of my favourites, too, also for its lyrics, it gives me strength. So is "Win the Race", which I'm sure you'll like, too. They both belong to M.T.'s comeback in the 90's, so yes, they have the 90's dance trends in them. So other songs of the same type are on their newest albums. I'll tell you some of my favourites:

China in her eyes
Last Exit to Brooklyn
Sexy, Sexy Lover
I'm no Rockefeller
When the sky rained fire
Rouge et noir
We take the chance
Time is on my side
Mrs. Robota

But there are also others, just take a look at their albums since 1998.

Blue System: the older albums are more like Modern Talking, while the newest are more like AOB. So I'm curious what you think :-)

[Mrs.Half-Swedish]

well ok Ileana ... I see you are a big fan of those guys but I wanna explain somehow why I don't like them .... in fact I know some people as well who are mondern talking fans and even they agree with what I think

it's not that people are envious I think ... well some surely are but most of them not

Thomas Anders is really tallented he's got a nice and catchy voice and I don't dislike the songs he is doing on his own ... but I don't like them that much either :-)

Dieter Bohlen is a real pig IMO ... I have nothing against people who are saying what they think but it's not nice to be rude to other people eps. not when you can't do it any better. I don't say he isn't a genious in promoting himself or in producing music or whatever ... he apperently knows how to make money and how to reach people, but it's not a big secret that he can't sing very good.

I probably have to tell people who are not from Germany that he was one of the jury in Germany's pop idol.

So when a pretty girl came in and had a little talent she would come to the next show, but if an uggly girl came in and had a quiet good voice she would even have gotten the chance if he was the only one to judge about it. plus I didn't like his comments at all. I mean if people can't sing its ok to tell them. that why they have a jury but to offend them and hurt them is not right at all. he started making fun of people in the first seaon and became very sucessfull because of those comments so in the nex season he was making even more fun of people and that's not nice .... that's it ...

so as I said you either love or hate him .... and I hate him because of his attitude towards other people. not one human being is more worth than another ... that's the same with dieter bohlen even if he has millions on his account, you can't buy sympathy ... if you are such a pig

;-)

[Ileana]

I agree with what you say, I also said that this is his negative side. But noone is perfect and this doesn't mean that if I hate this about him I shouldn't admire him for the rest. Besides, I'm not sure if being rude is worse than being insincere. Because I'm sure most of the famous people have this kind of thoughts about others, it's just that they care too much about their image and they always try to appear as nice as possible in order for people to love them! Ordinary people do the same. So I'm not sure that I should despise Dieter too much compared to others. Besides, he met a lot of opposition from people during his career and noone believed in him, so it's understanding that he enjoys now being in the position of telling what he thinks. He is a pig, Ok, but most of the people are for different reasons (see the thread about men being pigs LOL). I didn't mean that normal people envy him, but the other people in music industry. You say he can't buy sympathy: maybe it's not what he wants the most? If it were, he would have kept himself from saying those things. I think he wanted success most of all.

About DSDS: Yes, I admit he was tough, but I think he also did it for the show. I also found his remarks out of place sometimes, but as I said, this is his negative side. Do you know Alexander and Juliette from the first season? I love them both and Dieter said bad things about both, and still this doesn't make me hate Dieter. I understand his words hurt and that they hate him, BUT objectively everything he said turned out to be true. Besides, television and media is a big piece of shit, they just take the dirty and scandalous things that people say and make them public, but hardly the positive ones. RTL and Bild always show the most scandalous things that Dieter said, but I have watched two long interviews with him on ZDF and he only said logical and positive things, he admitted his mistakes, but of course the newspaper didn't write this on the first page.

About his voice: yes, he can't sing, I admit. This is not relevant for me because I find his music too good to need a perfect voice. And his voice still brings something special to the songs. I also love to listen to good voices no matter what they sing, just for the voice, but it is about the music now and what it means to me. And Dieter is not famous for his voice, but for his music. Take C.C. Catch, who sings very well and has great songs, all written by Dieter. And still people would say the same about her songs as about Blue System. "We have a dream" was number one in Germany in 2003, but still people say they hate Dieter's music. It's like this: I may not be totally objective defending him, but people who hate him are also not objective about his music.